I'm Roger Sanchez
The Association of Chief Police Officers has now unanimously outlawed its members from joining the Liberal Democrat party and says the will be sacked if they do so. All this because the Liberal Democrat have said they will lower policemans wages and give prisoners the vote. No this isn`t true instead the Association has banned its members from joining the BNP. And who cares? Apparently no one. All this week I`ve heard no one raise so much as a titter that this is wrong apart from the BNP of course. Well I`m opposed to it and heres why. It just not very democratic. Alright its not go one strike take up arms anti democratic. But its still not very democratic. People should be allowed to join any political party they want. Even if its racist even if it agrees with terrorism. A democracy is all about admitting that your not always right and might not even be right about anything even about racism being wrong. Its about giving people the right to think (and I think say) whatever they want in the knowledge they theres might just be the tiniest chance they are right. People shouldn`t be able to do whatever they want because doing stuff can hurts other people but thinking (and I beleive saying and writing) things doesn`t hurt anyone. And in order for you to have the "right" to think whatever you want you should extend this right to everyone else aswell. In a democracy everyone beliefs should be equally valid. And what is joining a political party if its not just the natural extentsion of your belief system. It doesn`t hurt anyone, it isn`t a physical act, its just an expression of your beliefs. The fact that you should lose your job just because of what you beleive in is terrible. How would you like it? Its just the principle of it.



Now on to the practical side. The police officers no doubt want to be doing something about the biggest evil in the world and get it out of their ranks. My friend said to me that they can`t claim to be treating all races equally if you can just point to a police man and say "But hes in the BNP". However this just doesn`t defeat the principle that people shouldn`t be persecuted for what they believe. And anyway if policeman are in the BNP won`t they just quit it to save their jobs. People often say that they`d rather know who the racists are so they can keep watch on them and to a certain extent I agree with this. If you know a policemans in the BNP you can put him on the beat with a firm anti racist and at the first sign he breaks your code of practise kick him out.





This all follows on from Blunketts laws forbidding people from inciting racial and religious hatred. Aparently most people seem to agree that freedom of speech is alright up untill the point where people start inciting a crime and these laws come under that precept. Well I`m not so sure. When your inciting a crime your not actually doing it all your doing is encouraging somebody else to do it. That doesn`t strike me as wrong. There the stupid ones for following your orders. And anyway since when has hatred been a crime. I hate a lot of people. I don`t do anything about it though. There nothing wrong with hatred. In fact a lot of the time its an emotion that you have little control over. What you do have control over is your actions. And if you follow through on these actions you should be punished. However if you ask me all these laws do is stop people preaching their beliefs of racism or whatever. In fact you may even be able to lock up a catholic priest for saying that protestants don`t go to heaven or that Catholics shouldn`t marry protestants. Again its just persecution of someone because of their beliefs.

Of course this doesn`t mean I don`t agree with the law against inciting religious hatred. I think it should be used extensively and extremely harshly in NI. We should use it to lock up as many Nationalsit politicians as possible and some unionists. Lock `em away for as long as possible. I believe in democracy and free speech and all but not as a deontological belief. Sometimes even democracy should be suspended.


I love to hear your comments even if its just to say you read my article because sometimes I feel like I`m talking to a brick wall. I`d write more if I know people are actually reading and enjoying it. Cheers.

Comments
on Aug 07, 2004
People should be allowed to join any political party they want.

Roger, on one hand I agree that, as long as an organisation is legal, then police officers should be allowed to join. The problem with the BNP is it is on the fringe. Yes it is legal but it is constantly under surveilance by groups such as the police. It would be similar with some bikie gangs. I would be surprised if police officers are allowed to join these. What is acceptable and in the public's interest is constantly under review.
on Aug 07, 2004
All this because the Liberal Democrat have said they will lower policemans wages and give prisoners the vote.


No one should be allowed to join the Lib Dems, they are insanely politically correct and are enemies of Britain. Give prisoners the vote? Let's just give pigs the vote too!
on Aug 07, 2004
Whilst I agree with Peter that the LoserDems are enemies of Britain (see earlier articles) I agree with their policy on giving prisoners the vote.
I mean lets take a crazy scenario where they get into power and don`t give prisoners the vote. They could then pass a law requiring everyone to be more politically correct. They then lock everyone up except their own supporters. They could even let us out on day release to work. Then they will always get reelected in elections because only their supporters can vote. They could do all this and still claim to be working completely with the bounds of our current system and our democracy.
on Aug 07, 2004
Luckily the British people are becoming more right wing by the day, I truly despise political correctness and the misery that it brings. Bloody plebs.
on Aug 09, 2004
Roger,
While I in general agree with allowing people to join any political party they want, the Association of Chief Police Officers have a good point. Their members are required to interact will all communities on this island, and their ability to do so would be severely restricted if some members of the organisation belonged to a party that was openly hostile to the muslim community. It's perfectly legal under current legislation. So long as they apply such discriminatino equally and ban members joining radical muslim parties.

Paul.

PS. Without such legislation there would be nothing stopping a muslim applying for a post as bishop of Cantebury and they suing on religious descrimination when refused!
on Aug 09, 2004
Firstly the polices abilty to do anything would not be happered by the fact that there are some BNP officers just the immpression of the police.

Paul, I`ve no idea what your PS is about. Currently there is I believe no legislation stopping employers specifing a particular religion. And special exceptions are made in employment rights for religions. (Its not against the law for the Roman Catholic church to refuse applications from women). I do beleive there some crazy EU legislation coming in that will say you have to employ people of any faith and you have to give them any days off they want for it to (I`m shorty converting to be a Jedi Knight). However even if this comes into force you will still be able to discriminate against people in regards to the political party they belong to.
on Aug 09, 2004
Firstly the polices abilty to do anything would not be happered by the fact that there are some BNP officers just the immpression of the police.

Paul, I`ve no idea what your PS is about. Currently there is I believe no legislation stopping employers specifing a particular religion. And special exceptions are made in employment rights for religions. (Its not against the law for the Roman Catholic church to refuse applications from women). I do beleive there some crazy EU legislation coming in that will say you have to employ people of any faith and you have to give them any days off they want for it to (I`m shorty converting to be a Jedi Knight). However even if this comes into force you will still be able to discriminate against people in regards to the political party they belong to.
I think legislation should be brought in to stop people discriminating towards people during job applications based on the political party they belong to and if it was this would mean a muslim could then apply to be a priest.
on Aug 10, 2004
Actually positive discrimination to promote ethnic minorities within the police force is allowed under the Employment Equality act. This act allows the police authority to ban membership of the BNP to encourage ethnic minorities to join.

The PS refers to the fact that the exact same clause in the act also allows religious organisations to require particular religious affiliation for employment positions. Otherwise equality legislation would make it illegal for the muslim church to not hire christians to be clerics.

Paul.
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